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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1009609376-1737107731=:25110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> Hmm, I think going full circle is then the way to go. Dig up a concept that >> has been forgotten for a 100 years or so, and perhaps it will be nice and >> fresh! ;) > > > Not a bad idea - although even using that would ultimately > be 'derivative'. Sadly yes. > There was some good pop music 100+ ago - including early > jazz/blues adaptations like 'ragtime'. COULD be kinda > punched-up. The wife loves jazz. Speaking of "new" I gave her an LP with Jan Johansson called Jazz på svenska. It's a jazzification of old swedish folk melodies. Quite relaxing, calm and melancholic. Kind of mirrors the swedish temperament I would say. > Humans are 'creative' - but not infinitely creative. > Once in a while we'll hit on something 'new' - but, > due to exposure/recordings that's getting more rare. > > I recall Paul Simon going to Africa in order to find > some 'new' sounds. Some of it worked, some didn't. > > >> Two books on that theme are Flatland which is about a 2d world and adding a >> few dimensions instead, there was a book by Greg Egan I think, which was >> about uploaded virtual entities. Cannot remember the name at the moment. I >> like that concept! I'm currently watching season 2 of pantheon, and it's >> going downhill. In the virtual world they are using way too many physical >> shortcuts to illustrate fights etc. It can of course be argued that the >> brains of the virtual entities have not yet adapter, but I think that's a >> lazy excuse. It would be interesting to think about if it would be possible >> to represent virtual uploaded entities in a way that might make them seem >> more native to their world, instead of just reusing our physical world for >> easy comprehension. > > > "FlatLand" is one of my faves. A much later writer did > "SphereLand" - delving into four dimensions. It was on my christmas reading list, but I forgot it in sweden when I migrated back to eastern europe. Very annoying! It is not a long read. Well, in april I'll be able to read it. > What does a passing hypersphere look like ... like a > dot, then a bigger and bigger sphere - then a smaller > and smaller sphere - disappearing as a dot :-) > > You'll have to look it up ... there was an author, > late 19th or early 20th, who made a book mostly > full of figures/drawings he claimed - after close > study - would help people wrap their brains around > 4th dimensional shapes. My philosophy professors father claimed to be able to visualize 4d. My philosophy professor thought it was one of his fathers jokes. >> Easy! Meta-multiverse, > > I call that "hyper-verse" or "poly-verse". We can more > easily imagine many, maybe millions, of other universes > spawned at the same time as ours, separate only by 4-D > barriers. But what if there are entire TREES of those, > no tree even remotely connected/nearby OUR tree ??? I've had similar ideas. Another fun idea is to imagine that there's no time, and that everything, all history, always was there. Time is just a way for our minds to deal with it in a rational way. > 3.x-D universes smell of some kind of leak/defect/bubble > in the 10+ dimensional matrix. Kinda like a pot of > water on a stove, the 10-D starts making lower-D > "bubbles". Probably won't last forever, but forever > IS a kinda long time. > > Where'd the 10+ D come from ? Dunno. Don't really > care. 'Causality' may mean nothing there. Best > to just say it IS there and if it wasn't then we > wouldn't be asking stupid questions. > > Turtles all the way down ....... Someone should really interview those turtles some day. They seem to be involved in a lot of stuff! >> that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for nerds! ;) Teilhardt de >> Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice merge of spirituality and >> sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free albemuth which had a nice >> sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting to read up on the story that >> parts of it are actually auto biographical from the point of view of Philip >> K. Dick. > > Not into 'spiritual' stuff since I was like 9. Had > one of those 'epiphany' things where all the whirring > bits momentarily fall in line and you can see through > to the (relatively boring/unromantic) truth. Ah! I am very interested in the truth! What is the truth? What did you realize? --8323328-1009609376-1737107731=:25110--