Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:29:51 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <947j2lx3qf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <24ffec92-9486-251d-7a42-d376b88b2c9b@example.net> <20241209135847.00004fb7@gmail.com> <9639150c-d17c-bb50-a5f4-20ff82e00513@example.net> <4b3cb76c-7e84-4357-026f-61375788e6f2@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-1504743471-1734085793=:17080" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2635222"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:62310 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1504743471-1734085793=:17080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 12 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> The thing that puts me off quantum is that media loves to hype it. That to >> me, is a sign that it is nowhere near being ready for anything productive. >> But I am not a physicist! But based on this group it does seem I am more >> right than wrong. > > Google just blew its horn today about it's new quantum > chip - solved some 1000x-age-of-the-universe math > problem in about five minutes. > > https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/ > > BUT, that particular problem was especially easy > to address with quantum methods .... Well, my measure of doing anything productive with it is... is anyone paying google to solve that problem? If not, it is just intellectual masturbation and of very little value. >>>> I would imagine once we hit that end point in terms of regular cpus, the >>>> only direction left would be purpose built cpus on other technologies for >>>> niche use cases such as biological computing, quantum computing, optical >>>> etc. >>> >>>  Bio is gonna be too SLOW. Quantum, we've discussed that. >> >> Isn't the idea behind bio massiev parallelism? So yes, the computation >> might be slow, but if you have millions of molecules performing it in >> parallel you do get fantastic results if the problem you are trying to >> solve fits the nature of bio computing? > > > But again ... NOT all problems are especially well > solved with massive parallelism any more than all > problems can be Q-computed worth a damn. Well, that is why I said "niche use cases" in my original text. I agree, not all use cases are suited for that, and my thesis was that when we hit a limit on general cpu:s, bio, photonics, quantum, will be developed for niche cases, that fit those technologies. Not, that those technologies will help with our every day cases. > So we're back to the more modern question of what > "computing" MEANS. All was clear with UNIVAC, but > since then ... > >> Seems like photonic is the winner for the moment. > > Don't see any other direction. We're already kinda > bumping-up against Moore even now with conventional > electronics. For anything needing linear calx, I think > we MIGHT get a 10x improvement and that's IT forever > with transistor-like electronics. 10x over todays figures? Nothing to scoff at, but I guess the question is, how long will it take us to get those 10x? --8323328-1504743471-1734085793=:17080--