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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? |
| Date | 2025-03-28 23:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dpjjblx75j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2025-03-28 22:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:49:02 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> sticks and cards do not have wear levelling.
>
> Then they would benefit from using a filesystem format that integrates
> wear-levelling in its storage-allocation algorithms, like the
> aforementioned F2FS or NilFS2.
Certainly.
exFAT is one.
«exFAT (Extensible File Allocation Table) is a file system optimized for
flash memory such as USB flash drives and SD cards,»
«exFAT has been adopted by the SD Association as the default file system
for SDXC and SDUC cards larger than 32 GB.»
«Linux has support for exFAT via FUSE since 2009.[4] In 2013, Samsung
Electronics published a Linux driver for exFAT under GPL.[32] On 28
August 2019, Microsoft published the exFAT specification[8] and released
the patent to the Open Invention Network members.[33] The Linux kernel
introduced native exFAT support with the 5.4 release in November 2019.[34]»
(<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT>)
*Flash optimizations*
exFAT contains a few features that, according to Microsoft, makes it
flash-friendly:
* Boundary alignment for filesystem structures. The offsets for the
FAT and the cluster heap is adjustable at format time, so that writes to
these areas will happen in as few flash blocks as possible.
* An "OEM parameters" field can be used to record features such as
block size of the underlying storage. One single type for flash storage
is pre-defined.[41]
* The lack of a journal, so that less data is written. (Although
FAT32 also lacks a journal.)
The first feature requires support from the formatting software.
Compliant implementations will follow existing offsets. The OEM
parameter may be ignored. Implementations may also use TRIM to reduce wear.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-24 13:30 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-27 06:19 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 17:47 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:41 +0100
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-22 13:35 +0000
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Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-29 13:44 +0000
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Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 04:16 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:04 +0100
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-22 13:50 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-27 07:31 +0000
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-23 05:49 -0400
Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-27 02:33 +0000
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Re: F2FS On USB Sticks? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-21 19:06 +0000
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