Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:50:53 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <38b4c4eb-2ab5-df94-0baa-c2d7fcdda60d@example.net> <7c5edef0-d4ec-a8fc-3f70-8ffa2a2b1df0@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1113073"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228651 comp.os.linux.misc:60639 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 05/11/2024 01:18, rbowman wrote: >> Being the new hire I saw a lot of the D section. They were ineducable. To >> put it plainly they didn't give a shit and their parents didn't give a >> shit. They were marking time until they turned 16 and could get working >> papers. To further clarify, there was one black kid. The rest were run of >> the mill white trash. I did have to relieve the black kid of his straight >> razor. The white kids knew better than to play with their toys in class. > > I have seen similar. > In the context of their lives and their parents lives education is completely > meaningless. > I had one such schoolmate in my class at primary school. His dad was a pig > farmer. All he wanted to be was a pig farmer. But he was in his own way a > nice gentle well behaved kid. He just didn't see the point of learning > Latin... > > The headmaster, an ex WWII tank commander, took a drill sergeant approach, > whacking him over the head until he had memorised 'amo, amas, amat' > correctly. > > To an extent it worked. > > The problem is that this class of boy responds best to the sort of physical > punishment we are no longer allowed to indulge in. > > Your class Ds belong in the Army. There they will learn whether they like it > or not, and some may in time learn self respect. > > I have long thought that long term unemployed should be made to join a sort > of army, where they are separated from their backgrounds, taught self > discipline and how to strive, and anything else they are capable of learning > - and would in time become extremely valuable as a civil rapid reaction force > to deal with the aftermath of floods and hurricanes etc. I'm not personally a fan of the military, but I had a neighbour once who was a major in the military. He was always so frustrated by criminal youth programs in sweden and that they always fail to produce results. He used to say, give them a year with me in the military, and we'll straighten them out. Somehow I believe he was 100% correct.