Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 21:44:30 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <3RPUO.364883$v8v2.299927@fx18.iad> <6723f0c1@news.ausics.net> <7bd05232-fb70-d3c8-d89a-be9f63d85207@example.net> <483e3c29-b695-d91a-bab1-68264d17296f@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="803203"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228494 comp.os.linux.misc:60428 On Sun, 3 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/11/2024 10:24, D wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 3 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>> It is pointless to wait for governments. But it is fortunate that serious >>> money needs serious power and has determined that renewables are as much >>> use as a wet fart in a desert when it comes to reliable 24x7 power. >> >> It is as I always say... when politics and reality collide, reality always >> wins in the end. The chinese communist party accepted the market, because >> they had to. >> >> I wonder if ships would be a good fit for a smallr SMR-reactor, that is >> welded shut with all the fuel for its lifetime? I also wonder what the >> environmental effects would be if such a ship would sink and the outer >> layer would slowly corrode and break down. On the other hand, the ocean is >> big, so any potential leakes would probably be absorbed without any effect >> at all. Add to that the fact that sunk cargo/cruise ships in todays world >> seems to be pretty rare. > > SMRs are being developed FROM submarine reactors. > > In reality any reactor is going to be massively shielded - there is no weight > issue on a ship - and massively isolated from the sea - and presumably have > failsafe SCRAM on sinking! > > Most reactor products cease to be even interesting after a couple of hundred > years and iron will last that long underwater. > > And the sea is a great shield. And also full of uranium already. Well, it seems the science and economics has spoken! We will see atomic powered ships. The political fuel will be climate change. >> >> When it comes to trains, just imagine a global vacuum tunnel system with >> trains reaching every country on the planet without any sonic boom! >> Completely unfeasible economically at present I guess, but a fun idea I >> read in some science fiction book from the goldenera of science fiction. > > Not economically viable at the moment. More likely to use hydrogen powered > sub orbital rockets for those in a hurry. True.