Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 12:04:09 +0200 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <965538a2-8ab9-666a-bd5e-03a83afc3c3a@example.net> <5e8rO.16722$jpKa.1635@fx41.iad> <20240802185015.156d1b08eda90550541ec9e1@eircom.net> <20240803081112.ffc5507ce3f1ed93c7af0cfc@eircom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1418540"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:662378 comp.os.linux.misc:57668 alt.folklore.computers:226347 On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2024-08-03 11:45 a.m., chrisv wrote: >> CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>>> Those who think that we can "go electric", any time soon, are GD >>>> *idiots*. >>> >>> Every one of us has had a moment where we woke up late AND happen to be >>> low on gas to get to work. In such a situation, stopping at a gas >>> station for a five-minute fill-up to then make it to work is still a >>> reality; imagine doing that with an electric car after you find out that >>> you're low and that there was a power outage overnight. >> >> And what happens if, say, a hurricane is approching, and they advise >> people to evacuate the city? >> >> All the the public chargers would get immedately overwhelmed, leaving >> *everyone* stranded. > > And the people lining up to charge at those stations would create pockets of > traffic which would block those whose cars are charged from getting anywhere. > > What most people don't seem to realize is that becoming the owner of an > electric vehicle is no different than becoming a welfare recipient. The same > way you rely on the government to give you taxpayer money every month to pay > your bills, you rely on the government to produce the electricity that allows > you to move from place to place. With a gas-powered car, I can buy from Esso, > Shell, Petro-Canada, Ultramar or some tiny family gas station to fuel up my > car. If I have a diesel vehicle and there is some sort of oil crisis, I can > produce fuel from vegetable oil or even a mix of alcohol to get around. Other > than connecting to a charger which requires electricity that is produced by > the state, what choice do I have? > This is an interesting question from a survivalist point of view. Is it possible to hook up your EV to solar panels? Given the right equipment I'd say yes. That still leaves the problem of what to do during winter in the northern hemisphere, so I imagine that wind or your own built hydro might be necessary there. But... Those solutions are all based on components which you cannot manufacture yourself. Now... let's look at the other side, producing fuel from vegetable oil or mix of alcohol. What would be needed in terms of raw materials and in terms of technology to make that happen?