Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:59:09 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <19ebc64d-c683-a046-e19b-9cdc51c81226@example.net> <1248675b-e38a-04a7-93b3-6fa527725858@example.net> <9Ladnbpj9OV4B_76nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-911455572-1734602351=:13685" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3600482"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <9Ladnbpj9OV4B_76nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:62693 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-911455572-1734602351=:13685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 12/18/24 3:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/12/2024 19:11, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:01:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>      The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar >>>>>>      Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up >>>>>>      the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just >>>>>>      as the ice age was starting to thaw. >>>>> >>>>> Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland. >>>> >>>> Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not >>>> have been a useful route >>> >>> Exactly why do you think he sailed from Africa? The DNA matches the >>> western European hunter gatherers who had be in Europe as long ago as >>> 17,000 years BP. >>> >> >> Then why call him a black African... >> >>> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton- >>> cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/ >>> >> New scientist is a political magazine. It has no real scientific content. >> Its har left antd this is probably part of some 'critical race theory' >> bullshit > > > At least partially true ... don't take their stuff > at face value, there are clearly agendas mixed in. > > Used to take the biggies - Science and Nature - but > eventually lost the patience to read through them. > Sigma Xi's "American Scientist" is more friendly. > > And FORGET "Scientific American" - first it dumbed-down > a bit and then went far left and I don't think it can be > redeemed. Extinction followed by a name-ripoff resurrection > is the only hope. Such a pity. > > But ... in the CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE ... is it > even possible to have a relatively 'objective' > science source ? I see every color of glasses - > except Clear. > > >>> The rest of the article is pay walled but if you read other sources there >>> is waffling on the skin color although 'black' generates better headlines. >>> Even Wikipedia is more balanced. >>> >> Exactly >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_hunter-gatherer#Physical_appearance >>> >>> When you're looking for specific alleles of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 in ancient >>> DNA there is room for interpretation. >>> >>> https://phys.org/news/2023-08-ancient-ape-trkiye-story-human.html >>> >>> Chris Stringer's Just So stories may become yesterday's news. Wolpoff and >>> Caspari challenged that theory about 30 years ago, partially because >>> Stringer's time line wasn't realistic. >>> >>> Perhaps they will revisit the M haplogroup which has long been an anomaly. >>> The Just So story says L3 left Africa and mutated to M subclades of which >>> are common in Asia, including the Indian subcontinent.  Except M1, which >>> is found in North Africa. Did some M people on their way to Japan get >>> homesick and go back to Africa? >>> >> Every body wandered around and banged anything that moved. > > > EXACTLY ! :-) > > The more they trace the 'tree' the more obvious > that becomes. The Victorians would be SHOCKED. I'm so lucky to be related to the norse gods instead! No earthly connections here. --8323328-911455572-1734602351=:13685--