Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: The "Standards" Game Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 21:52:43 +0200 Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <10a6nt3$1c65i$1@dont-email.me> <10a9qlq$25h61$1@dont-email.me> <10ac80j$2nuve$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 0s01/vrhTBVWU85sqzt4/gbnZ8D0a2c+BcMK8BhJhGXIjqtzSE X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:cQgSbnLIvMh7Ey12ZVE4azyGLdo= sha256:W7e47dzsfYXzSfvpHM6640VG9b6F4FnkIsjxMKaJUjk= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <10ac80j$2nuve$1@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:74346 alt.comp.os.windows-11:24301 On 2025-09-16 19:50, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 9/15/2025 11:35 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 15:50:17 -0400, Paul wrote: >> >>> The project needs a 3.4 Kilometer tunnel! That's a billion dollars worth >>> of tunneling right there. I did not see that in the plans. Clever. Oh, >>> well. >> >> Should have hired The Boring Company. Anybody but Bechtel the corporation >> behind Boston's legendary Big Dig. It only took twice as long and cost >> twice as much as anticipated. >> >> Where does the tunnel go? Seabrook Station in New Hampshire has 2 3 mile >> long tunnels going out into the ocean. When concerns were raised about the >> temperature rise from the exhaust tunnel the answer was 'The lobsters will >> love the nice warm water!'. >> >> Seabrook bankrupted Public Service of New Hampshire but at least it's >> still operating. Maine Yankee and Vermont Yankee were killed by cheap >> hydro from Quebec among other things. I wasn't enthused back in the '80s >> but not because of nuclear technology. I thought their estimated of >> projected demand were too high and the plants weren't economically >> feasible. New England's manufacturing was leaving and the population >> wasn't increasing enough to make up the difference with residential >> demand. No problem today -- just build an AI data center. >> >> Hopefully the SMRs work out. >> > > There are four regular nukes "up the street" from that hole in the ground. > That is one of the advantages the site has, is it is on the same slab as > existing nukes. It will share some of the infrastructure (substation perhaps). > The citizens have already been given their potassium iodide tablets :-) > > But I hadn't seen a plan to run a cooling tunnel. > > There could be more SMR in future, and the cooling tunnel might > be shared by more than one SMR (eventually). This is all part of > "seeing what real benefits SMR bring", as to whether the budget > will be close to the projected value or not. > > While every quanta of nuclear is worth something, it's a pretty slow > way to achieve a "step change in output". If there was a real BEV mandate, > you'd never get there with a forest of SMR and holes-in-the-ground and > cooleo-tunnels. As it is, I doubt we can keep up with the "retirement rate" > of the existing reactors. > > If there are any lobsters in the waters nearby, they will be "well-done" > and not just "medium-well". How warm or hot will be the water inside the tunnel? The tunnel is very large diameter, that's a lot of water. They could use it to warm houses instead. Also, where does the intake water come from, another tunnel? -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;