Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 11:32:47 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <8xidnV6HZos6I9v6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <5cKdndZFvPPeD9T6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <9PucnWdylb1dAtf6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <8QSdnSVUsd2Rt9H6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <0GCdnfw-dKqg38z6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <2fec47c1-8484-b9ee-ba1f-02d2431a30ed@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1688528"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:61817 On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 12/6/24 9:30 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2024-12-06, D wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:13:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> Fedora still seems ok - as far as Fedora is OK. The >>>>> Manjaro/Endeavour/Arch end is still OK. Never a fan of Slack, but, >>>>> who knows ...... gotta keep evading suckitude. >>>> >>>> Slack was my first distro. Download in pieces and copy to about 40 >>>> floppies. >> >> When I decided to try Linux I went to the local bookstore and browsed >> the Linux books, comparing all the ones that came with an install CD. >> I liked Patrick Volkerding's book best, so I wound up starting out >> with Slackware 3.5. I continued with it for several years (and >> upgrades), but the lack of a package manager required lots of >> application builds from source, which grew tiresome. > > > Slack IS very "raw". There's some good, but a lot > of bad, in that. You kinda have to be an OS fanatic ... > > But I'm not 16 anymore. Thank you for the review. Then it is not for me. I don't mind _some_ tinkering to improve things, but like you, I'm not 16 anymore and I have a business to run, so this I will remove from the list of my opensuse replacements. >> I tried several other distros, e.g. Mint and CrunchBang. >> Ubuntu was very easy to bring up, but when they switched >> to the Unity desktop in release 10, I decided it was time >> to move on. I finally settled on Debian. > > Well, you COULD get past Unity ... > > My biggest objections were the 'services' they kept > pushing hard - indeed could barely install it anymore > without signing up (shades of M$ !). They also changed > and/or moved around a LOT of config stuff for NO real > gain IMHO. > > Deb - WAS the Solid Foundation - but suddenly became > just another 'Buntu. > > So now it's Fedora and Arch derivs. > > I've heard GenToo is kinda interesting ... and > there are always the BSDs. I was very impressed with FreeBSD when I tried it out 1 year ago. The only thing missing for me was that in order to get anything faster that G-wifi, you had to run a small alpine VM with passthrough, since native drivers did not exist for FreeBSD. I tried to run a snapshot version, and faster than G-wifi did work, but something else was unstable, so I had to leave it for the moment. The laptop I tested it on was a (then) 1 year old Asus ExpertBook B5, and everything except the wifi worked flawlessly. The Freebsd handbook was absolutely amazing. The documentation is in my opinion, far, far ahead of linux. Suse does have some good guides actually, but I feel BSD is better.