Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:55:46 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <38b4c4eb-2ab5-df94-0baa-c2d7fcdda60d@example.net> <7c5edef0-d4ec-a8fc-3f70-8ffa2a2b1df0@example.net> <9880da7b-5955-9b72-c2a5-3f2ec49618eb@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1113668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228654 comp.os.linux.misc:60642 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc D wrote: >> I teach at the vocational level, and I try to give them a rough start >> to filter out the unmotivated ones. Out of the ones who remain, when >> I was allowed to educate as I wanted, 100% got jobs, and 100% got >> salaries above their industry average. >> >> The school was very excited, yet, angry that 40% quit. They never >> saw the connection between the two things. > > Of course, because "how many got jobs?" and "how many earned above > industry average salary?" were not the statistics being measured to > determine "success" by whomever was doing the "measuring". > > "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his > salary depends upon his not understanding it!" > (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Upton_Sinclair) > >> But fear not! The government is always there to make a good thing worse. >> ;) This year the government has changed the rules, so schools will be >> measured on how many students quit a program and will be punished for it. > > Nice. So now the incentive will be to keep as many as possible in the > class, with the result that they disrupt the ones who do want to learn > enough that no one really succeeds. You've got it! In addition, it will dilute the quality since they will make exams easier to pass, so after a year or two, companies will stop hiring graduates, since they will start to perform a lot worse than the current generation.