Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 14:36:10 +0100 Lines: 95 Message-ID: References: <10ppvvc$3mqi2$3@dont-email.me> <10pr9ad$3cks$1@dont-email.me> <10psdva$hncu$1@dont-email.me> <10pvgch$1imv9$1@dont-email.me> <20260325085004.ad4b3ae9f0b57d1de6ff8a98@127.0.0.1> <1774434007-12588@newsgrouper.org> <10q0h6i$1saa3$5@dont-email.me> <10q1l01$2asi9$1@dont-email.me> <10q1tvl$2ct18$4@dont-email.me> <10q3alr$2ref7$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net lYk0aqrnvkCKaEg2gj4KhwNBucGCG2FezRS4GB3EfyIP6oSDAJ X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:jYfwZ0L+vmVTJ4Yw9yIAq1r4Wbk= sha256:X1t8ol7O/f5p6/Tr7O/P6BLlfgWIggbPi5CNViskpKc= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <10q3alr$2ref7$2@dont-email.me> X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:84104 On 2026-03-26 14:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 26/03/2026 12:54, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> But Spain’s disproportionately sunny skies and strong winds result in >> consistent renewable generation: Gas is only needed to cover demand >> during 15 percent of an average day in Spain, compared to nearly 90 >> percent in Italy. > > Actually its your hydro that means you don't have to run much gas. > And access to French nuclear power Actually, we are often sending electricity up north, but the pipe is too small to be significant. France blocks building a real pipe, they do not want the competition. No, we are saving the water for the next drought. +++--------------------------- πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ Spain electricity generation mix (β‰ˆ2024–2025) | Source | Share of electricity | | -------------------------------- | -------------------- | | Wind | ~22–23% | | Solar (PV + thermal) | ~20–22% | | Nuclear | ~19–21% | | Hydropower | ~13–15% | | Natural gas (combined cycle) | ~12–15% | | Other renewables (biomass, etc.) | ~2–3% | | Coal + oil | ~1–2% | πŸ”Ή January 2026 (best complete breakdown so far) Based on data from the grid operator (REE): | Source | Share of electricity (Jan 2026) | | ---------------------------- | ------------------------------- | | Wind | ~30–32% | | Solar (PV + thermal) | ~18–20% | | Nuclear | ~18–20% | | Natural gas (combined cycle) | ~15–17% | | Hydropower | ~10–12% | | Cogeneration & others | ~5–6% | | Coal | ~0–1% | ---------------------------++- So no, water is not the big one. Wind is. For the interconnection with France: +++--------------------------- The interconnection between Spain and France is relatively small but very active, and flows both ways depending on the hour, season, and prices. πŸ“Š Actual flows (latest solid full-year data: 2025) | Flow | Energy (TWh) | | ------------------------------ | ------------------------------------------- | | Spain β†’ France (exports north) | **6.81 TWh** | | France β†’ Spain (imports south) | **5.84 TWh** | | **Net balance** | **+0.97 TWh (Spain exports slightly more)** | 2. Typical daily pattern (simplified) β˜€οΈ Midday (solar peak) β†’ Spain β†’ France πŸŒ™ Night / low wind β†’ France β†’ Spain This is why both directions are significant. ---------------------------++- So no, French nucs are not doing it either. +++--------------------------- ⚑ Physical limits (important) The interconnection is actually quite constrained: Current capacity: ~2.8 GW Future (Bay of Biscay project): up to ~5 GW by ~2028 And from auction data for 2026: ~819 MW France β†’ Spain ~680 MW Spain β†’ France (typical allocated capacity) πŸ‘‰ This is small compared to Spain’s total demand (~30–40 GW), which is why Iberia is often called an β€œenergy island.” ---------------------------++- -- Cheers, Carlos. ESπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ, EUπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί;