Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:24:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Use GParted to make bootable USB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: From: "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> Organization: flattened meerkats Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:24:30 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.222.41.46 X-Trace: sv3-7wCkEt6xK8SDoxHyTiQR9646/aJMFps8WnHN7/IHc7VhBNVLT122PZYgsZ2CnbXuGi9imYdIgONijok!XY8Qiy2rRSGL7JxVm2XZ5xwHU4naRYDcWH3fPHEXRyn+BAGx2r5kRFFcg0rqAH5EbV0Pvt0RwtPy!s7jvp4ugmU9gvMVnZxE= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:37143 On 2/18/23 9:21 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> writes: >> Most modern bootable USBs also incorporate >> a UEFI (a M$ abomination) partition a the >> very start. You, kinda, CAN fake that with >> gparted - create a FAT-32 part at the very >> beginning, but it's not guarenteed to work >> since special code needs to be loaded INTO >> the little partition. > > It’s an industry-wide design, not unique to Microsoft. But it was a M$-driven PLOT - mostly to hurt Linux. > The thing you > need to copy into it is your boot loader. Conceptually it’s not much > different from installing a boot loader into a boot sector. The > practical differences are that you can have more than one operating > system’s boot loader there, and you have more than 512 bytes to play > with before having to chain to something else. With GRUB you only need to load ONE thing, GRUB, at boot. Then IT takes care of all the alternatives. It will work just fine from a non-UEFI medium. Now if, for some reason, you don't WANT to use anything like GRUB then, yea, the data in the UEFI can theoretically boot multiple systems (until M$ decides it shouldn't by adding a few 'poison' bytes somewhere (they'll call it a 'security enhancement')).