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On 11/6/22 8:00 AM, Andrei Z. wrote:
> Pancho wrote:
>> On 06/11/2022 02:02, 26C.Z968 wrote:
>>> On 10/29/22 10:51 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>> On 10/28/22 01:51, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>>> "Time is an illusion, Unix time doubly so..."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.netmeister.org/blog/epoch.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Discussion on Hacker News
>>>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33341652
>>>>
>>>>      Wait until you are over 80 to tell us time is
>>>> an illusion.  Time is duration aka how long something
>>>> lasts.  I have lasted with changes over 85 years.
>>>>      Unix time is as long as Unix lasts and is
>>>> a useful idea.
>>>>
>>>>     bliss-the ineluctable, formerly implacable.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Unix time will outlast Unix. 
>>
>> cal has disappeared from Ubuntu 22.04!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
> $ apt show ncal
> ...
> This package contains the "ncal" program and the traditional "cal" 
> program, both are commonly found on BSD-style systems. ...
> 
> $ apt policy ncal
> ncal:
>    Installed: 12.1.7+nmu3ubuntu2
>    Candidate: 12.1.7+nmu3ubuntu2
>    Version table:
>   *** 12.1.7+nmu3ubuntu2 500
>          500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/universe amd64 Packages
>          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 

   I've noticed a number of olde-tyme utilities disappearing.
   OpenSUSE dropped a number I was using, and now the trend
   seems to be spreading. The "improved" versions really ain't.

   Problem - lots of software saves a LOT of code by just running
   those utilities in a shell and parsing what comes back. Suddenly
   it's broken ....

   And I *do* prefer 'ifconfig' to 'ip'. Much more straight-up
   informative report ... what you're REALLY looking for .....