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Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system
Date 2024-12-26 22:06 +0100
Message-ID <94t04lxjce.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <vkhe62$2fr0m$1@dont-email.me> <MdKdnfxSNqjRW_H6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <vkjidd$2vi9r$2@dont-email.me> <ac204lxjnu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vkjts0$31t1j$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2024-12-26 16:48, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 12/26/2024 8:30 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-26 13:32, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Hmmm, I recently bought a mini PC with Win 11. I booted to Windows,
>>> immediately used the built-in Disk Manager to shrink the Windows
>>> partition. Then I installed Debian.
>>>
>>> Pretty straightforward.
>>
>> This is the best method. Do the shrinking as soon as you buy the machine. Or, at Windows install time.
>>
>                 1    2            3                          4
> +----+----+-----+----+------------+--------------------------+ - - - ---------+---------------+
> |MBR |GPT | ESP |MSR | W11 C:     | Recovery Partition 600MB | unallocated    | secondary GPT |
> +----+----+-----+----+------------+--------------------------+ - - - ---------+---------------+
>                     ^
>                     +--------- Windows Disk Management does not show the MSR 16MB (a NoFS)
> 
> For a Linux user, one of the recommendations is to change
> the EFI from 100MB FAT32 to 500MB FAT32.
> 
> But for gparted, the MSR acts as a "blocker", because gparted
> expects to inspect any partition and check the partition file system integrity
> and the MSR has no recognizable file system.
> 
> If you ignore that recommendation, the Linux install should still work.
> It might have been someone at Ubuntu that recommended a 500MB ESP.
> 
> The Recovery Partition has SafeOS in it, a WinRE.wim file . On Windows 10,
> the updates can fail on that, due to poor handling technique by Microsoft.
> The Windows 11 updates are more coy about the mess, and I can see signs
> for example, an update is queued to go into the 600MB partition, but
> the attempt to update the item is failing (...quietly). If you bump the
> Recovery Partition up to 1500MB, that leaves room for the worst case
> handling behavior of the update.
> 
> The end result then, your disk could look like this (EFI not changed).
> 
>                 1    2       3           4                               5
> +----+----+-----+----+-------+-------------------------------------------=---------------+
> |MBR |GPT | ESP |MSR | W11 C:| RP 1500MB |         Debian slash          | secondary GPT |
> +----+----+-----+----+-------+-------------------------------------------=---------------+
> 
> a machine that ships with Windows 11 on it, the ACPI MSDM table should have
> the license key. You would not have to buy another key. While older machines
> had a COA sticker, the license key in ACPI MSDM is your proof of purchase.
> License keys on the Internet are maybe $25. Some people have experimented
> with the cheap keys, and the keys "have not tipped over". That's for stuff
> like Home or Pro.
> 
> If you were Secure Booting (and who would be doing that!), you can do
> the Windows Updates first, and have some certificate ending in 2011,
> replaced with a certificate ending in 2023.
> 
> In an Administrator Powershell, you can run this and it should return True
> if the necessary modification has been done. (The signed shim on a recent
> Debian, is more likely to align with this 2023 thing.)
> 
>     [System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’
> 
> If you weren't secure Booting, it would not particularly matter.
> 
> If you perform activities such as "reset TPM to factory keys", then you
> may end up installing another copy of Windows 11 (but only long enough
> to re-install UEFI CA 2023). Then the excess Windows 11 partition could
> be removed. That's what I did on the Secure Boot test machine to bring it
> up to date, before pouring in the Linux.
> 
> *******
> 
> To reduce the size of Win11, you can
> 
> Admin terminal:     powercfg /h off         # Delete hiberfil.sys , can no longer hibernate
> 
> Admin terminal:     sysdm.cpl   Advanced : Performance (Settings) : Advanced : Virtual Memory (Change)
>                      You can reduce the virtual memory using  "Custom size 1024  1024"
>                      On the next reboot, the pagefile.sys in the C: partition root area
>                      should be 1024MB.
> 
> After this, you can shrink your C: partition down. move the Recovery Partition over,
> and put Debian on the end.

Thanks, interesting writeup :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 20:12 -0500
  Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-25 12:08 -0500
    Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-25 19:26 +0100
      Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-25 18:00 -0500
    Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2024-12-25 22:09 -0300
    Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-25 21:58 -0500
      Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 07:32 -0500
        Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-26 14:30 +0100
          Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-26 10:48 -0500
            Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-26 20:49 +0000
              Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-26 16:53 -0500
            Re: Fwd: shrink drive c: to install a new operating system "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-26 22:06 +0100

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