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On 8/4/22 5:34 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 00:46:37 -0400
> "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> wrote:
> 
> []
>>     As for PL/I ... it's one of the first things I checked out
> []
>>
>>     Now how do we pry it away from IBM ?  GPLI ?  I do prefer
>>     native compilers over 'convert-2-C' approaches though.
>>
> 
> http://pl1gcc.sourceforge.net/
> 
> needs some work.
> 
> But it seems to be tricky
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I#Implementation_issues

   BUT you can get BrainFuck compilers  :-)

   Admittedly PL/I was a rather "fractured" language, many
   flavors and sub-versions. If you ask somebody to write
   an open-source PL/I the first question is "WHICH PI/I ?"
   Of course some enthusiasists, a new K&R, could just
   make up their own 'and the kitchen-sink to' version
   and promote it. As that wiki said, even some common
   looping paradigms never became "standard" in PL/I and
   it'd be nice to have a few - though GOTOs, sanely used,
   DO work quite well.

   As for the GNU approach of translating other languages
   into 'C' (why not just write it in 'C' in the first place) ...
   there MAY come a point where even 'C' isn't up to it -
   consider the trend towards 'neural networks' and quantum.
   The straight-up step-by-step 'C' approach doesn't seem
   well suited for quantum and NNs are an odd mix between
   sorta-traditional software and super-capable processor
   arrays like NVIDIA sells (hardware/software/firmware all
   in one thing - more like a brain).