Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jayjwa Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C7?= deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use =?utf-8?Q?instead=E2=80=9D?= Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:22:41 -0500 Organization: atr2net 2026 Message-ID: <87ms2e6e26.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> References: <10k93b3$9rp0$1@dont-email.me> <10kalds$oqup$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="146046"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tftqQVTHMn/CAX8MTgSNt29aDzs= sha1:92i5TsGZJb2YdVud6BYO2AT75wY= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXLNAq5zDE/09YQhfUO0QFH98bIDRmDgNok+OFJntF3UTtXN/Jq6iMA/0IYhA4 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:81161 The Natural Philosopher writes: >> He asked if >> there was something like 'ipconfig'. I'm glad he didn't ask why it's >> 'ifconfig'. That's been screwing me up for years. > > Because interfaces can be used by other protocols than IP? I've not seen other address families in ifconfig, but iproute2 used to allow configuration of other families outside of IP. They were unceremoniously ripped out long ago. Now you have to use specific tools for those other protocols. ipx_interface check br0 802.3 IPX Address for (br0, 802.3) is 00000100:AA0004000104. dneigh Node HWtype Next-Hop Flags MTU Iface ATR2 loop AA:00:04:00:01:04 --- 65533 lo NERGIG ether AA:00:04:00:0F:04 --- 1498 br0 As per the other comments, bridging used to be with the bridge-utils tools such as brctl(8). Now that's mostly with the 'ip' tool or 'bridge' (iproute2 again). rsync can run without SSH. scp and sftp are still there. 'slogin' disappeared for reasons I've since forgotten. scp is more for one file while rsync is for many. egrep and fgrep used to be separate tools. Now you're supposed to use 'grep' with switches. nft for 'iptables'. No need for 'rdev' and 'rootflags' anymore either. https://www.tutorialspoint.com/unix_commands/rootflags.htm for the newbies. iw vs iwconfig - iw is much more powerful. Of course, systemd has taken over almost everything anyways. Give it a few more years and it will have eaten the shell, too. -- PGP Key ID: 781C A3E2 C6ED 70A6 B356 7AF5 B510 542E D460 5CAE "The Internet should always be the Wild West!"