Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: GNU Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 22:38:05 +0000 Message-ID: <87a4vuw71u.fsf@parhasard.net> References: <10ojmjv$2ashr$1@dont-email.me> <10q03vf$1o2ev$1@dont-email.me> <10q0c18$1qua9$1@dont-email.me> <10q0f40$1s10c$1@dont-email.me> <10q1etr$9gh8$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk> <10q2o3v$nqm7$1@news1.tnib.de> <10q3kgr$2val0$1@dont-email.me> <1774547182-12588@newsgrouper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="760515"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) XEmacs/21.5-b36 (Linux-aarch64) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bQRvF3dhF5gsJyqQfKlBvrzm/EI= sha1:XbZRrHTCslFfx7XHF/1jFOlZ268= X-User-ID: eJwNyMERwDAIA7CVCGBDxqE9vP8IrZ5C8PCtJJgQFOtQb/6ZTZNPFN1YtSPTvbAF51Ddop4PC6YQuw== Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:84147 alt.usage.english:1141036 Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Márta, scríobh Snidely: > [...] Ada was the one I most enjoyed learning. My employer had, as support > for the main project, developed one the better Ada compilers ... it passed > the first time it was submitted for certification. I think the GNU Ada > compiler ended up better, but that took a few more years. > > I've also dabbled in troff, PostScript, Javascript, and a fair bit of HTML/CSS. > MockLisp and GNU Lisp. And a project that I did as a test rig for my > employer's lab was where I learned Python, and that's my current go-to. Bruno Haible’s GNU Clisp? Common Lisp is the only language I have had dealings with where I am happy and convinced that the people making the design decisions were consistently rational adults making sensible decisions. Recent C standards have that, but K&R C had plenty of crazy things that are still in the standards (how long did it take snprintf() to be universally available, and before that we were stuck with sprintf() or strcpy and friends!?). I have no reason to learn Rust, but it does seem mostly sensible from the outside. The reputation of Python is not of consistent rational adults making sensible decisions, but I’m glad it works for you. If the Common Lisp ecosystem met my needs I would use SBCL for almost everything, but I’m stuck with C and Emacs Lisp and nudging everything in the latter more to Common Lisp. -- ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’ (C. Moore)