Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: yeti Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What programs do you make sure are installed on a new Linux install? Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 10:10:20 +0042 Organization: Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI) Lines: 64 Message-ID: <877cdxima3.fsf@tilde.institute> References: <87bk39iufl.fsf@tilde.institute> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 11:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a47d79c7de12270bf34cbbbf06ef20db"; logging-data="296569"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QrBbCTebh7twrW5vh+kMz" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EA/dSbIEiXKbuW2+qY17aRKbeI4= sha1:yV7Mo1Ks526iofidAUDuFM4rUUs= X-Face: "-Nh[_Q`f/iywEEk*gL\V>5N1AB*"sDJ8;EUV=C-0Y@WB9ePs{Cw>dh=u?}LO}?T(5_L2HX `mj:w>@KY3N6`v6Y!/<)"&OTwwj<}i=2g^/|Mp#95.z4HsbUizxbZ*4X085{X||BvThEN9wD=Q1o7" 5d3u_b|SUTt Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAAiklEQVQY02NgoCUQOASmOJwPAElGjuQfIIrH8A9IsK3wJ0jFMcPHDUAVxywPNzCw8Dy3bD7AwMzy+Q/7AQbGvuq57QsYGI+brz+fwMDw+9re/x8YGLPcFP8/YGBccaTg4QcG5o4WBeYGBnaBngTDBJBFDvUHQBY5/G8AWXHgH9j65h9gitmBgfYAAJOqKugnjqEOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:56726 Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes: > On Sun, 07 Jul 2024 07:14:14 +0042, yeti wrote: > >> doas/opendoas >> >> I'm still in the progress to migrate from sudo to doas. > > systemd-run0 might be the New Hawtness. No way! I'll rip out all systemd using distributions here as soon as I have decided what to use instead. I had a mega fight the other day to get NFS automounts working with it. It would have been just some minutes without systemd swallowing every function and doing it in a totally different unreadable and overcomplicated way. But the decision not to want systemd is much older. I already partially switched to Devuan, but then Devuan's ARM-SBC images drove me back to Debian at least for the ARMish ones. Now that Debian decided to drop X86, switching away from it is even more urgent and Devuan (still a good choice on AMD64 and X86) won't be able to compensate for that. >> mawk >> >> I like "-We" and dislike GAWKisms. > > perl >> awk (any awk) I have AWK in OpenWrt and NetBSD default installs. Perl not. So I benefit more from keeping my AWK muscles intact. >> netcat & ncat >> >> life savers for poking around in text based protocols. > > Why not socat? I never looked closer at socat and meanwhile I do stuff that's too complex for n(et)cat in C, micropython or scheme, so I have enough alternatives without learning new socat tricks. >> rsync >> >> openrsync doesn't really replace it yet. > > Never heard of openrsync ... ah, another project that exists solely for > licence-political reasons. Not to mention, BSD fragmentation strikes > again! openrsync lacks a lot of features and was crash-happy when I tried to use it because I assumed it'd be lighter than the original. >> wget >> >> ...still is more in my muscle memory than curl. > > Not to mention having a much smaller potential attack surface. \o/ -- I do not bite, I just want to play.