Path: csiph.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!news.quux.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:54:50 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <7ee30f7c-5749-a2cd-6c96-bb57e9e4f9af@example.net> References: <2132040480.752628420.877076.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <4974b722-5ebd-8006-d604-059d844ad410@example.net> <20241110125107.6ca2c85e656c4ebea0ba971c@127.0.0.1> <1127207714.752959432.540727.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <1cfe7d69-6e8f-b6a0-5a68-7a27be881df4@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2096070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228878 comp.os.linux.misc:60938 On Tue, 12 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/11/2024 20:29, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:17:28 +0100, D wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:05 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Linux just kicked out all the Russian contributors. >>>> >>>> Torvalds doubled down by accusing anyone who disagreed of being a >>>> Russian troll. He would have been better off staying silent or pointing >>>> out the US location of the foundation. >>> >>> He has lost a lot of credibility after attending woke courses. Could >>> also be that he is being blackmailed... "Say this or we'll kick you >>> out". >> >> He did point out he is a Finn and they have a fraught relationship with >> Russia. Finland is one of those countries that would rather not discuss >> WWII. After the Winter War they allied with Germany for the Continuation >> War against the Soviets and then made a separate peace with the Soviets >> and entered into the half-hearted Lapland War as the Germans retreated to >> Norway. After WWII the relationship with the Soviets was complicated until >> 1991. They're feeling more secure these days and are anti-Russian. > > Given the choice between Hitler or Stalin its a hard decision. > I imagine the feeling was that if allied with Germany they wouldn't get > invaded and taken over, whereas they would with Russia. This is the truth. Also swedens reasoning. If we collaborate with the Nazis, they won't steamroll over sweden, and we'll get to keep our infrastructure and industry. In hindsight, that strategy was an excellent strategy for sweden.