Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 22:01:22 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <7e0745a5-e25f-d768-3ce0-ebf5907b9f0b@example.net> References: <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <2db3c587-3759-f06e-d2cd-221ee7d67643@example.net> <1331129626.752355153.403222.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-326966760-1730667683=:7362" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="805355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <1331129626.752355153.403222.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228505 comp.os.linux.misc:60440 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-326966760-1730667683=:7362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 3 Nov 2024, Peter Flass wrote: > rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:43:03 +0100, D wrote: >> >>> Oh but they are. Today they are called mexicans, italians, greek, >>> arabians etc. and from a material and quality of life point of view, >>> they've never had it better. >> >> Tell that to a mestizo picking lettuce in central California. >> > > Still probably better. Poor people today have things that royalty couldn’t > even dream about in the old days - indoor plumbing, instant hot water, > lights at the flip of a switch, refrigeration, entertainment at your > fingertips. > > This is the truth. Johan Norberg in his excellent book The Capitalist Manifesto, shows exactly the above with statistics. Yes, many people live hard lives even today, but if we compared the wealth, quality of life, infant mortality etc. globally today, with only 100 years ago, all data points indicate that we are way better off today. --8323328-326966760-1730667683=:7362--