Path: csiph.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!news.quux.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:17:04 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <7896d790-e533-a390-b024-abc1edcd1c15@example.net> References: <9eb45192-e996-fa3d-b002-c02798bb2b7a@example.net> <7Gq5P.102876$7FA3.79818@fx13.iad> <5d39f504-e3f6-3830-a9fc-fc79cf7fc557@example.net> <992330af-c771-9db3-7d20-deb5e0cb882d@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2235971"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:62153 On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/12/2024 20:50, D wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 09/12/2024 09:53, D wrote: >>>> Swedens government has now decided that sweden shall have new, working >>>> nuclear power in 10 years. >>>> >>>> I would bet several hundred euros against this being done on time. >>> >>> I'm not so sure. >>> At the moment Rolls Royce is going through the red tape box ticking >>> exercise on their reactors. >>> They want to deploy the first ones by 2030. >>> The Czech Republic is working with RR on this as well >>> >>> There is a huge potential market for the first companies to put together >>> scalable small modular reactors that are in mass production. >>> >>> Build your concrete structures, pop in a boiler and turbines and some >>> generators and ship a complete reactor in, and plug it in to a factory >>> produced control system, and that's it. >>> >>> 5 years top's is the aim >> >> This is the government. No SMR:s in sight. They are thinking about "safe" >> traditional ones. >> >> If they get it done in 10 years, and if they dare to explore SMR:s, I will >> be happily proven wrong. > > Sweden is small enough to be reasonably governed by people who don't get too > puffed with self importance. > > I think the salient points for Europe are:- > > - Net Zero is pie in the sky. It ain't gonna happen. > - Renewable energy is pie in the sky, and massively expensive overall. It > ain't gonna happen either. > - further reliance on fossil fuels is fraught with danger since by and large > Western Europe doesnt have any. > - All the Nordic hydro is pretty much exploited as well as alpine and in the > Iberian peninsula. > - All that is left is nuclear, and the point of SMR is to reduce build time > and hence cost. > > We have to use what fossil is left to bootsrtap the nuclear economy. > > Note I didn't use the phrase 'climate change' anywhere above. It is > *supremely irrelevant.' > > The greater issue is the growing scarcity of fossil fuel Amen! But I don't think the fossil fuel scarcity is too much of a problem, and that there's enough left for at least a generation or two. But it won't be a big bang, plenty of technologies exist to bridge the gap. Would be cool if I could finally have a nuclear powered car that I bought full, and would never have to refuel. ;)