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Subject: Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 14:16:04 +0100 (CET)
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In article <52a1lg-p2t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
> On 27/03/2020 03.46, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> > In article <i9hvkg-hda.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
> > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote:
> >>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> >>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote:
> >>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to
> >>>>>>>> do...
> >>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC.  Then the suggestion was to maybe be
> >>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job.  Tho not all of linux is identically the
> >>>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of course).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could
> >>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer
> >>>>>> company.
> >>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using
> >>>>>> Linux on
> >>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for a
> >>>>> PC.
> >>>>
> >>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I was a little lad then.  Later I saw some history that Sun Microsystems
> >>> started around that time of charging around $1200 for a PC and then
> >>> lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer.
> >>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple.
> >>
> >> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows.
> >>
> >> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as
> >> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using
> >> Windows machines instead.
> >
> > Linux = crowd-sourced support and clowns from India
> > Unix = dedicated professional support
> >
> > That is the value.
>
> Actually, in my case it was the same lab and guys that did the Unix
> stuff who did the Linux stuff on the side, and installed it while the
> bosses were still arguing about prices and how/where/when to install the
> official Unix stuff.
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Carlos.