Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 11:49:05 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6e570a46-cbfc-651a-aa9b-4451263e95a8@example.net> References: <2e17ec15-582f-5a71-84e5-d4d490274270@example.net> <7454fa51-3534-2584-2197-90613efb2091@example.net> <9uo3ojpd83jm9ngmlhera3nvi00pl9ajeb@4ax.com> <3w-dnT3j2Mwylx76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3243465"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <3w-dnT3j2Mwylx76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:64202 On Sat, 11 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/11/25 2:50 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:00:04 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> So, for now, Manjaro and some Fedora. No one has yet made a clean >>> Just Works port of Fedora for the Pi-5 alas ... something's WEIRD >>> about that unit. They should drop it and make a "Pi4-Ultra" instead >>> with a peppier version of that chip. >> >> There's a new Pi 5 version with 16GB of RAM. It's not clear what the use >> case is. Windows on ARM? > > There's clearly something very convoluted about the > way the CPU and maybe some peripherial chips start > up on the Pi5. You could run many Linux distros on > Pi's up thru the Pi4. Then ... the factory Deb deriv > is pretty much IT unless you wanna suffer a lot. > > If you've ever watched a Pi update, note ALL the > damned messages about special fix-ups and kernel > hacks - I mean there's LOTS of them. The BCM2712 > do NOT boot smooth like earlier versions. I'll > still say the Pi3s were the "most generally useful". > > As for the 16gb ... well, if it's not TOO much more > expensive, may as well have it. However 4gb has > always been more than enough for anything I've > wanted to do with a Pi. Even the ancient 250mb > ones worked OK with Linux - though I never tried > OpenSUSE/KDE on a Pi-1. > > I did turn one into a muzak system though - 4 hour > loops of 'mall/elevator music' from the 70s that > would switch once a month. Ran for like a dozen > years ... probably still is, unless somebody finally > found where I hid it and smashed the thing with > a hammer :-) > I have a raspberry pi 3 still going strong as a TV computer after probably 7-8 years or so. The only problem is that my father forcefully unplugs it every time he vacuum cleans, so every couple of years the memory card gets corrupted and I have to do a full format/reinstall. But that doesn't take long, and since it is only every couple of years and not an important computer, that's ok.