Message-ID: <69efe366@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: AI Is Killing Some Legacy Hardware Support Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <10sbn6f$2kkkk$8@dont-email.me> <69ea9ec7@news.ausics.net> <69eb2a5f@news.ausics.net> <10skbd3$1cssv$3@dont-email.me> <10skfk3$93hh$1@news1.tnib.de> <10skglm$1ej2r$1@dont-email.me> <69ee94fe@news.ausics.net> <10snd8b$29c0d$2@dont-email.me> <10sng6n$ftff$1@news1.tnib.de> User-Agent: tin/2.6.5-20251224 ("Glenury") (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 28 Apr 2026 08:29:58 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net Lines: 36 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:85984 Marc Haber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>On 26/04/2026 23:43, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> True, but usually niche things like the Micro Channel bus, or >>> industry-specific hardware. For over a decade almost everyone >>> running Linux on a laptop would have had a PCMCIA slot. Dropping >>> that (and other relatively recent changes and discussions) is a >>> new indication that the developers don't care anymore about keeping >>> old hardware going. Even though Linux has really been very good >>> at it and is now picking up many new users on that basis since >>> Windows has become even more extreme with their enforcement of >>> hardware obsolescence. >> >>Crap. PCMCIA is at least 20 years since last made. > > Maybe Kev is counting Expresscards as a special case of PCMCIA? No, and it's pretty dumb that this argument is continuing after I already pointed out where the Linux developer who'se the proponent of PCMCIA removal says themselves that the last PCMCIA laptops were made "~2009". I am counting Cardbus since the technical standard for that was still called PCMCIA so I'm assuming the Linux devs include that too. The newest laptop I use does have Expresscard as well as PCMCIA/Cardbus, but I've never had any Expresscards since the PCMCIA/Cardbus ones do what I want and work with my older laptops too. But everyone has the right to say something to the effect of "I'm not using that old hardware, so piss off". That is in fact exactly what I think I'll do if the BSD crowd looks any better. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#