Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!dca.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=nNMNLgECVHB]2f>5GVFLaGHWonT5<]0TM@GOK[m5A6WB3[L8B6BE9jMbX[23;bU8bB^mf8;J?==:I1U6XXjO4IRMG\UeahNG:ZNMTGRm?EV8gG X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net From: Brock McNuggets Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Organization: Southern Nevada Institute of Technology X-Face: OE,U*3RQg$PaaY%:;s[%.TJFTqzGM9EL:D&.YbCOm5!c%xV@y]sZp1}|4z1e#&fu-CsQTGD v=2VH@#1t(zS,vzeoae-"89+OP('Dg:*IE(xZ}mm-/F&uPp'JhzS4($RUX5[,9lVU*4>+h03"l>poL m%m13'*KZ}:Zp5,eX)-dy{=ut.[~J=G#Go References: <10qui03$1m4ih$1@dont-email.me> <10qvm54$1uf62$4@dont-email.me> <69d37784$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <10r15ds$2c976$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Usenapp for MacOS X-Usenapp: v1.28/l - Full License Date: 06 Apr 2026 20:55:25 GMT Lines: 66 Message-ID: <69d41dbd$1$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1775508925 reader.netnews.com 19 127.0.0.1:44997 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:85473 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:144263 On Apr 6, 2026 at 1:35:08 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10r15ds$2c976$1@dont-email.me>: > On 06 Apr 2026 09:06:12 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote: > >> On Apr 6, 2026 at 12:08:20 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote >> <10qvm54$1uf62$4@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On 06 Apr 2026 04:46:31 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> >>>> MacOS is almost as filled with open source as you are with an >>>> agenda. >>> >>> They abandoned Bash, because of some unexplainable allergy to GPLv3. >> >> They have no obligation to use bash. > > Only the most popular *nix shell in the world? But then, macOS isn’t > really a *nix system, is it? How do you figure? > > So, what shell do they offer instead? Why is it preferable to Bash? zsh is standard but you can use others. Looking now I see I have: bash csh dash ksh sh tcsh zsh > >>> They abandoned GCC (which meant getting rid of Objective C), for >>> the same reason. >> >> And? > > And tried to push their developers to use an entirely new, proprietary > language. And? > >>> What version of Python do you get with your macOS installation? >> >> Don't know / don't care -- which you will twist to be bad. > > Not only preinstalling an out-of-date version of Python, but risking > incompatibilies if the user tried to install a more up-to-date version > from a third-party source. I do not code but from what I understand they are sticking with stable version and not bleeding edge. There are tradeoffs. You can install your own. Non-issue averted. > You described macOS as “filled with open source”. “Filled with > out-of-date, less popular open source that users didn’t ask for” might > be a better description. You just made a huge irrational leap. Boring. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.