Message-ID: <68bf5bb3@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: Batteries and mains, going solo. Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <1071jbr$3ra8s$1@dont-email.me> <10746fg$h625$2@dont-email.me> <20250808081850.00002e14@gmail.com> <1075pla$ukab$1@dont-email.me> <20250808144937.000021b1@gmail.com> <10761aq$vv6o$3@dont-email.me> <10777f7$17kq4$8@dont-email.me> <6uqkmlxjb8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1079oe9$1ppd6$6@dont-email.me> <107ab26.3rg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <3rkmmlxplv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <107cipt$2g8mr$9@dont-email.me> <107ghmk$3j56j$4@dont-email.me> <107kfi2$d4vh$21@dont-email.me> <107kma2$d4vh$36@dont-email.me> <109ha6l$31h9b$1@dont-email.me> <109k35o$3le7e$1@dont-email.me> <1pt3plxjtc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> User-Agent: tin/2.6.5-20250707 ("Helmsdale") (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 9 Sep 2025 08:41:56 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net Lines: 69 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:73731 alt.comp.os.windows-11:23968 In comp.os.linux.misc Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-09-07 16:00, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 6/09/2025 11:41 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-09-06 14:41, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 14/08/2025 11:21 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> People were trapped in elevators, and could not phone for rescue. >>>>> Instead they shouted, and neighbours kindly went even on foot to the >>>>> elevator office to ask for help instead. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not demanding anything, just stating a proven fact. >>>>> >>>> By-the-by, I have Solar Panels and a Solar Battery on this house. If >>>> the Mains is available (something for the Battery Circuitry to >>>> reference) and the Batteries are charged, the Battery can supply power. >>>> >>>> If the Batteries ARE charged but there's no Main reference, the >>>> Batteries do bugger all!! There's $10,000 down the tube!! >>> >>> Yes, but that's a fault of your firmware and hardware. Very common >>> failure; many houses in Spain discovered that as well. The system just >>> needs to disconnect from mains and go solo. It is possible and has an >>> extra price. >>> >> Yeap, "It is possible and has an extra price." >> >> When my system 'died' I contacted the Suppliers/Installers to find out >> what went wrong and they said nothing was wrong, that's how the system >> was supposed to work. >> >> HOWEVER, for a mere $1400 (I think) they could sell you a box that you >> could connect to the battery that would allow you to draw up to 1kW from >> the Battery (without any Mains reference) whilst it held charge .... you >> know, for use in Life and Death situations. > > Only 1 KW? How big are your batteries? > > I think you can simply: > > - Disconnect from the mains with a manual switch In Australia it has to be an automatic switch in order to be legal. They don't want people leaving the switch on while the line is being repaired so that the workers get zapped by solar inverters that are powering it instead of the grid. Such systems exist, but I don't think they're common and they cost significantly more. It's easier for them to sell you a separate inverter that's not connected to the house wiring and therefore doesn't have to follow the regulations. > - Keep a bulb connected to outside to find out when electricity comes > back. > - Connect your batteries to a suitable inverter, and connect the > output to the inner side of the big house switch. > > Anyone having a solar independent installation, not connected to the > mains, does that. True, but here, and I think in many other countries, once the house wiring has a mains connection there are a whole lot of extra rules to follow. https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/plug-in-grid-connectsolar-inverters/ -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#