Message-ID: <68a1065c@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: Linux hits a snag as Intel employees maintaining some of its drivers are laid off Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <107kmkc$fjp8$1@dont-email.me> <689e5392@news.ausics.net> <689fcfb1@news.ausics.net> <107pteh$1m734$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: tin/2.6.5-20250707 ("Helmsdale") (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 17 Aug 2025 08:29:48 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net Lines: 45 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:71419 TJ wrote: > On 2025-08-15 20:24, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> I'm using Firefox 128.13.0esr, the current ESR release. My many >> about:config tweaks might be a factor in triggering the JS bug. >> >> Really Firefox should handle memory allocation by Javascript >> more gracefully than this, since you're expected to be running >> whatever random junk you get from any dodgy web designer. Maybe >> it's supposed to? >> > I have no issues with the page on my 11 year old HP laptop this morning, > but then I maxed out the RAM at 16GB soon after buying it at a lawn sale > 4 years ago. RAM is cheap, The RAM isn't upgradable in that. Anyway the page actually works fine, scrolling up and down (or not) for the seconds before the RAM fills up. It's not a regular performance issue. There's a bug in the JS causing it to fill up memory endlessly. I doubt more RAM would do anything more than increase the delay before it runs out and the browser locks up (but you can check the "about:performance" page to see whether the Linux Foundation tab's increasing RAM usage does stop somewhere above where my browser stalls at 1GB if you want). Apparantly it's something my particular Firefox version/configuration is triggering, but it's not directly a hardware issue. > I understand the concept of keeping old hardware going as long as > possible. I have a 2002 Dell 32-bit laptop that runs Mageia 9 with no > issues that I wouldn't expect with only 2GB of RAM and an almost ancient > Radeon GPU. But when it takes a longer time to load a website into > Firefox than on a newer machine I don't complain of "terrible web > design." Mostly, I marvel that it can still work at all. I complain that terrible web design means I need as much as 2GB RAM, but this is a different issue. As I say I don't have lock ups like that normally and the RAM isn't usually maxed out while I'm browsing with Firefox. This is another consequence of terrible web design which is that websites can introduce bugs in basic functionality that's built into the browser and works fine already there. It's reason (alongside others, such as privacy and security) to avoid JS-based websites regardless of the hardware you use. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#