Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:09:11 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6465d1f8-6fab-e3bd-0345-86011937364d@example.net> References: <495550f7-796e-4414-67ae-26d3f8ba16f1@example.net> <33442f75-5afe-ce6b-d5b2-19efc78a72d3@example.net> <2c1fb128-258b-7848-e896-3246674d460f@example.net> <2d814efc-b5f8-a1f9-d273-77016cb3cbae@example.net> <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1521862"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:61768 On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 12/5/24 4:36 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 05/12/2024 09:31, D wrote: >>> There is great good and great evil in man. That's what makes him so >>> fascinating and why fighting is such a necessary sport to give an outlet >>> for all that aggression. >> >> Only man creates the categories of good and evil. >> Science does not include them > > The Real World exists. What any of that MEANS, > entirely our own inventions. > > And those inventions tend to CHANGE over time. > > Yea, kinda Nietzsche-esque ... > Don't even go there. Natural and I had very lively discussions on that theme. ;) But yes, I'm in the camp of the people who accept the real world as a fact, and that without humans, there's no ethics, math, true or false.