Message-ID: <62fc1c8d@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: MX Linux has an old-school look and feel. Here's why it's so popular Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <0ac05b8c-01d1-4f5a-ac35-8888f44a20abn@googlegroups.com> <62f97fdd@news.ausics.net> User-Agent: tin/2.0.1-20111224 ("Achenvoir") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 17 Aug 2022 08:39:09 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://www.ausics.net Lines: 50 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:35476 25B.Z969 <25B.Z969@noda.net> wrote: > On 8/14/22 7:06 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > >> I tried going down both paths (installing Devuan via Star Linux, >> which is mainly just a more stripped-down distro than the official >> Devuan release). Devuan has been OK, except that there aren't any >> official package repo mirrors in Australia, > > Um .. really doesn't matter if they're on Mars at this point ... Maybe not for the download speeds, but the delay for the request-response round trip is much higher when dealing with servers on the other side of the world. When downloading hundreds of packages, that delay occours for each package, and can take longer than the download itself for small ones. Anyway I'm patient so it's not a big issue, but I am disappointed that none of the major mirror sites in Aus have picked Devuan up. I'm using the Japanese mirror because it's geographically closest, though I'm not sure whether that logic holds up to the technicalities of international routing. >> but I haven't attempted >> a OS version upgrade with it yet. With AntiX I have attempted an >> upgrade, and spent a few hours in dependency hell because the >> package managers (when apt-get failed, I moved to Aptitude) tended >> to select newer Systemd-based packages on the Debian servers >> instead of the AntiX ones when resolving dependencies. At the same >> time I couldn't just remove the Debian repos from >> /etc/apt/sources.list because most of the other dependencies were >> only on the Debian servers, so the only way to go was to take >> things one error message at a time and select all the >> Systemd-related package versions manually (geeze it's wormed its >> way into a lot of stuff!). > > Antix IS a bit "marginal" and you've gotta do extra > work to get exactly the packages you want. Apt and > Aptitude CAN offer finer control than apt-get, but > there are LOTS of fiddly params and often fer-crap > documentation/examples to go by. If there's a package manager that has a setting for preferencing packages from a particular server, or with the "nosystemd" label, no matter how deep it's burried in the docs, that would solve the problem. But I tried looking for that myself and failed to come up with anything. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#