Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:59:35 +0200 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <5bc5c422-00c0-04d0-364a-e98933fe035c@example.net> References: <644516764.751141153.105442.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <652c95b8-cdfb-50ba-9632-e7cbeec5bf43@example.net> <8e3c519b-770e-e8e9-0d46-155863cf9e05@example.net> <14bf8113-9c0c-f265-dd25-dddad24644f3@example.net> <2eb63125-729c-7fbf-21da-444f83fc279b@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3575517"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228152 comp.os.linux.misc:59992 On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-10-23, D wrote: > >> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2024-10-23, D wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-10-22, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> In that sense the companies themselves have gone 'socialist' in that, like >>>>>>> Marx, they regard economics as a zero sum game. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incorrect. By design they do what they do, and whether the economy is >>>>>> zero sum (it is not) or not, does not really apply. That is why todays >>>>>> crypto-socialist government is so extremely dangerous. It subverts and >>>>>> distorts the markets, just by existing. >>>>> >>>>> As opposed to large corporations subverting and distorting the markets, >>>>> as God intended. >>>> >>>> They do it with the help of the governments. By themselves, per >>>> definition, they are not able to over time. >>>> >>>>>>> That is, it isn't about creating more wealth, it's about who gets to own >>>>>>> what there is left. >>>>>> >>>>>> True. >>>>> >>>>> I.e., a zero-sum game. >>>> >>>> No, it is not, and that is proven by economics. The proof is that we are >>>> 8.2 billion people on the planet and we've never had it better. > > FSVO "we". > >>>> If economy was zero sum, we'd be dead by now. >>> >>> Give it time... >> >> Exactly. No proof, so far. > > "So far, so good," the man falling past the 5th floor of the > Empire State building was heard to say. That's nonsense and you know it.