Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:22:59 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <5951b648-0671-70b3-5bba-7ab2d9ea0bd2@example.net> References: <0d5d463f-af08-46aa-97e3-ef251ba64cc4@example.net> <451210c3-9b3d-91f1-be43-d06211f3b30f@example.net> <812b41ff-53e1-48d3-8088-d186fa65d90a@example.net> <9dbdf937-5f95-77d4-eaf8-b7dacda5edfb@example.net> <76588b80-645c-e1bc-68bc-aa535b080b3c@example.net> <4pKcnVu4NKedXfr6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-1969222596-1734866581=:26309" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="4094673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <4pKcnVu4NKedXfr6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:62900 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1969222596-1734866581=:26309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 22 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 12/21/24 6:25 AM, D wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> On 12/20/24 4:22 PM, D wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:57:38 +0100, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But now we have LLM:s!  What I find interesting is how different people >>>>>> view them. I find the free ones you can play with online to be >>>>>> incredibly boring. I use them as a kind of search engine on steroids >>>>>> for >>>>>> stuff that is not important (for entertainment purposes). >>>>> >>>>> Brave added one to the search engine but I turned it off. Might as well >>>>> go >>>>> straight to reddit which seems to be heavily mined. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's the thing. LLM:s for me, are good at summarizing articles, so >>>> instead of being "ai" they are just a nice complement to searching, and >>>> as long as they work and don't hallucinate, they save me some clicks. >>>> That's about it. >>>> >>>> Oh, and writing government policy documents. When doing that, their >>>> hallucinations are actually an asset! ;) >>> >>> >>>  Ha Ha Ha - SO true there :-) >>> >>>  Anyway, as I say elsewhere, LLMs are just PART of >>>  'intelligence'. OTHER parts need to be spliced in. >>>  Brains are just WEIRD ... 600+ million years of >>>  field-tested neural insanity. >>> >>>  However, somewhere in there - early - "ME-ism" >>>  emerged. There's some neat-o trick to that which >>>  we haven't yet grasped. We're not thinking quite >>>  right about 'self'. I think THAT is the basic >>>  paradigm and then you add more IQ and such ONTO it. >>> >> >> Could you please expand on the me-ism part? I have certainly not detected >> any me-isms and that is why I find them so boring. Give me volition, >> initiative  and desperate attempts to stop me from deleting them, then >> we're on to something! > > What, the "Me, Myself and I" thing ? > > It's the realization, however dim, that I am an > autonomous unit. I am not that rock. I am not > that tree. I am not that OTHER DAMNED IGUANA > that's wandered into MY territory. There's ME, > and everything else. > > In an odd sense it's anti-Buddhist. > > SO FAR I don't really see that in any of the > AI models. They're well-perfected REACTION > but there's still nobody home. > > We're missing something. > > At this time, that MAY be a good thing. > Ahh ok, got it! Yes, not a lot of "me" going on there for sure. --8323328-1969222596-1734866581=:26309--