Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:24:36 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <56863c9e-ff75-fe94-cedc-02551a790d28@example.net> References: <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <036dd555-4c8b-1d1f-9a82-7f60087bd457@example.net> <9ab5f5a3-0e1b-ac1b-49c3-075f1c37b98d@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2590385"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:63973 On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/7/25 2:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2025-01-07, D wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> No amount of political will can solve the coming shortages, because >>>> that's not where the will is being applied. It's all going toward >>> >>> This is incorrect. Shortages, and lack of political will, makes for >>> excellent opportunities for political entrepreneurs. >> >> Unfortunately, these people often do not have the common good in mind. >> >>>> increasing our population beyond the ability of science to provide, >>>> and ensuring that technological advances will never catch up with >>>> ever-increasing demand. (Besides, shortages drive prices up, which >>>> is good for The Economy.) >>> >>> This has been said since at least the 1800s, and has been equally wrong >>> every single time. We have not even started to farm the seas and space. >>> There are enormous areas available for farming on the planet, limitless >>> energy, and NASA has proven that we're seeing global greening. Do not >>> worry about increasing population. >>> >>> In fact, if anything, population is stagnating. So throw away the >>> mainstream media and enjoy life. We've never had it better, and we'll >>> have it better still! =) >> >> I hope you're right. Most governments are quite alarmed at signs that >> population growth is showing signs of slowing, and are doing their best >> to push it back up. Canada's soon-to-be-ex-prime minister managed to >> double immigration, to nearly 500,000 people per year (multiply by 10 >> to scale it to U.S. proportions). Some of these people were just dumped >> onto the streets of Toronto with no place to go, having served their >> purpose of getting the numbers up. Meanwhile, last I heard there were >> still 50 communities in the country without drinking water. Priorities... > > > The first impulse is to blame the US border problem on > Joe/socialists trying to import lots of people who will > vote for them. However most 'Mexicans' are relatively > conservative Catholics and those from further south > have had very bad experiences with 'communists'. They > are not gonna be the next leftist slave class. > > What they are is the fill-in for native-born Americans > who aren't borning many or any kiddies themselves. > The problem exists in the EU as well, and is worst in > Japan and Korea. Given the option, a LOT of women will > not have many or any children. This ages the overall > pop rather quickly. So, gotta start importing labor, > esp for the Shit Jobs. Downside, this keeps diluting > yer native culture and eventually You become Them. > > The Taliban seem to have solved this - give women > no options but to be breeders. General wealth is > also not high enough, so kids become yer support > army. > > In the USA it is poor politics to SAY you need to > import foreign labor (we've seen this attitude > in play just the last week). In other nations > the notion is more politically acceptable. > > Some imagine robots doing the shit work ... but despite > the hype I don't see General Purpose robots any time > soon. Yer human pop will still keep declining until > even the robots have nothing to do but maintain the > other robots. > > Read "R.U.R." (Capek 1920) for fun. > I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all day. Everyone wins! =D Yes, you may call me an optimist as an insult if you wish. I am an optimist, so deal with it. ;)