Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:07:04 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <52ef4857-e919-2be7-4248-c51f23e6a193@example.net> References: <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <3RPUO.364883$v8v2.299927@fx18.iad> <923ee618-5c3c-21fc-897e-506e73d054b7@example.net> <874j4qe60z.fsf@localhost> <65a3859e-3b65-b1ee-fe76-08be883aa809@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="653326"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228427 comp.os.linux.misc:60363 On Sat, 2 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:46:57 +0100, D wrote: > >> What techniques are those? I only remember one thing I've read >> somewhere, and that is that the US military stopped using regular round >> targets for shooting practice, and switched to human shaped targes. >> Apparently it did shift the kill-needle a little bit in a more >> favourable direction. > > I read Grossman's 'On Combat' about 10 years ago and dug it out and > thumbed through it. His style is very anecdotal which makes for easy > reading but isn't too good for finding specifics. He mentions force-on- > force paintball and video simulations in a couple of places. > > I used to shoot USPSA and there were two flavors of targets: > > https://www.challengetargets.com/category/USPSA_TARGETS.html > > The club used the vaguely human silhouette variety although some preferred > the octagonal generic target as less human. One thing I learned from the > matches is some people could really get into the scenarios. I never could > and wasn't very good at it. Grossman is big on the sheep, wolves, and > sheepdogs metaphor and implies sheepdogs are born not made. > >> I also read somewhere that 1% of the population has no natural barrier >> to killing other people, and that those types of people are the ones >> that the military is looking for to join special forces and snipers. > > Lawrence made the point about higher crime rates among ex-military and I > believe it is valid. I believe it may have more to do with who joins the > military rather than the training itself. In terms of crime of ex-military, another factor could be what they did and experienced while in the military, and how well prepare they were to enter society again after the military.