Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: smart plugs??? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:14:00 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <4868cde2-b261-7d4e-11c9-894846aab659@example.net> References: <70892435-a326-11bb-0e95-cde8e098caa1@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3994161"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:64497 alt.os.linux.mint:43803 On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc D wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 16/01/2025 09:33, Mike Scott wrote: >>>> On 15/01/2025 20:31, Pancho wrote: >>>>> I think you have to be careful that they are not controlled by a >>>>> cloud service. If you have a cloud service you need a working wan >>>>> connection and you are exposed to the cloud service provider >>>>> disappearing. >>>> >>>> (Thanks to all for replying) >>>> >>>> This is the rub. tp-link clearly /want/ the consumer to use their >>>> "cloud" service - which is usually just a fancy codeword for 'we >>>> want your data'. There's no actual /need/ that I can see in this >>>> case. >>>> >>> Actually there is. >>> >>> It is the simple way to solve 'remote access' to your 'behind NAS' >>> network connected gadgets >>> >>> Now *we* can organise that because we are geeks, but te average >>> coinsumer? Doan mak me larf! >> >> I use tor to give me a globally unique name where I can access my >> stuff behind NAT as a Tor hidden service. > > 99.1% of the total users would be incapable of achieving what you are > doing with Tor, even if given infinite time to set it all up. > So? I made no claim that 99.1% should be able to achieve it, so I do not understand your sentence.