Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 21:52:34 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <38b4c4eb-2ab5-df94-0baa-c2d7fcdda60d@example.net> References: <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-576598685-1730667156=:7362" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="804269"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228499 comp.os.linux.misc:60434 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-576598685-1730667156=:7362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 3 Nov 2024, Peter Flass wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 29/10/2024 15:18, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> Which attempts fundmentally can be attributed to modern capitalist >>> theory that requires constant growth. Without new consumers, >>> how can the economy expand? >>> >>> Is it time for a steady-state economy? >>> >> The problem is that most modern economies have a social care and debt >> Ponzi scheme, that relies on more people earning more money to pay for it. >> >> Stop the new people and the scheme collapses. >> >>> https://steadystate.org/discover/definition-of-steady-state-economy/ >> >> Well it will have to come eventually, but the transition will be painful >> >> > > Productivity keeps increasing. You shouldn’t need more people when you can > fund it out of the change that falls into the couch cushions. Robots, automation, optimization and general technological development will take care of it and us. I'm personally not worrie in the least. On the other hand, I am an optimist. Many people do not like me for being an optimist, but such is life. ;) --8323328-576598685-1730667156=:7362--