Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Kewl. Common Desktop Environment 2.5.3 Released Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 01:06:59 +0100 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <32041mxfb2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <187f87f9767214b8$43779$4031116$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10habf6$15qla$1@dont-email.me> <10hbejb$n003$1@news1.tnib.de> <693d5b98$0$28051$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <693ea088$0$10327$426a34cc@news.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net aCazhZI9RJGfEg4TC4RUXQJKS5HWKpJg3413lFf+JCQglUTfsY X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:cfH+KZsZSiBqRU4LtgfIG0RKoVo= sha256:Iits620Pr2rPJXDVSEQpTC4DapAARiIBhtjFULkAX50= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <693ea088$0$10327$426a34cc@news.free.fr> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:702749 comp.os.linux.misc:79105 On 2025-12-14 12:33, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 13-12-2025, Carlos E.R. a écrit : >> On 2025-12-13 13:27, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >>> Now, considering the easiest way to do stuff to manage your computer is >>> another question. I've used successfully the command line to make >>> changes on thousands of files which would have required me hours or days >>> to take care with a graphical tool with. I have no example of stuff >>> which would have been easier with a graphical tool. But for someone who >>> doesn't know the CLI it wouldn't be so easy because he would need to >>> learn the right commands first. >> >> It is easier to edit scripts in the GUI desktop than it is in the >> console. Renouncing to the GUI desktop is ridiculous. > > For me, the difference between the GUI and the CLI is the use of the > keyboard or the use of the mouse. Of course, I'm launching my terminals > in GUI. And as a text editor, I'm using neovim. So, I'm always fully > inside a graphical environment but, I'm using CLI as much as possible. > Of course, I won't browse websites with links but I'm using qutebrowser > to be able to use my keyboard on well designed website. > > Of course, I'm not telling others to do the same. I'm only telling, for > managing my computer, I see no graphical tool that can do something I > can't do on the CLI. Discovering the CLI is more difficult than > discovering the GUI, but well, I'm using Linux from more than thirty > years now and back in those days, the CLI was almost mandatory so I'm > not discovering it. But you are doing the thing I say to do. You are not contradicting me. You are running terminals in a GUI. Using CLI editors or GUI editors doesn't matter. I also use CLI editors, and the command line a lot. What I refuse to do is use the console unless I need to. Console, not terminal. Different thing. Console is the text mode display. I saw someone at uni using a GUI desktop to edit files in 1987 or thereabouts. One window for the editor, and another for the program he was testing. Another terminal for something else. At the time, I only had MsDOS. I was astonished. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;