Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 08:06:53 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 22 Message-ID: <20260512080653.00007518@gmail.com> References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <69f472c8$0$10325$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <10t8gmr$37epi$4@dont-email.me> <18ac73d880b9a55f$7676$2865982$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10ticho$263lq$3@dont-email.me> <20260508151345.0000586e@gmail.com> <10tnl8b$3nr4e$3@dont-email.me> <10tr4ef$n8tt$12@dont-email.me> <10ttn4e$1g1he$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="2054221"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX197eh45yYl1Q2BlWHeCOKPOfK+n8lvWIB4="; posting-host="abfb92045259e6591f6e69c58bfb3722" Cancel-Lock: sha1:KZvFWs1XIdRrP0Z5QLLeo7KISgk= sha256:Zs09d8kDnVAmO9lgEW9EDEn8dGAXfqOeNNdNM3Qfqa8= sha1:BzW+n2T0hDEmdIJEUHcDCcr6VGg= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86490 On Tue, 12 May 2026 12:56:31 +0200 "Carlos E.R." wrote: > Gnome made a brutal change, I don't remember if it was version 1 to > 2, or 2 to 3. > > Many people abandoned gnome and switched to xfce. 2 -> 3. GNOME Team (like MS) swallowed the tech-press "death of the PC" narrative hook, line, and sinker and went all-in on trying to mutate their desktop GUI into a hybrid tablet interface, ending up with a Fiji mermaid that made nobody happy - and when people complained they (like MS) responded by stridently lecturing the public about how Actually You Just Don't Get It and making only the most token concessions they could get by with. *Unlike* over in Windows territory, the community had the choice to tell them where to shove it, and MATE was forked from GNOME 2 in the space of about 14 ns, to the surprise of absolutely nobody but GNOME Team. You'd almost think there was a lesson in there somewhere, but if Wayland is any indication people seem determined not to learn it.