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From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
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On Fri, 8 May 2026 21:45:54 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve already laid out all the options for you. I=E2=80=99ve shown=
 you how they
> can carry forward their multi-window style, while actually reducing
> clutter. You didn=E2=80=99t like that. I=E2=80=99ve pointed out that most=
 other major
> content-creation apps are moving to custom layouts within a single
> overall application window -- which is a technique well-suited to
> complex workflows. Yet you don=E2=80=99t like that either.

I mean, ultimately it isn't *me* you need to convince - I have no say
in the decisions of the KiCad devs. I'm simply pointing out that *A.*
your proposed solution would require them to expend a bunch of extra
effort to preserve the design/workflow that they've found works for
their userbase, in exchange for precisely nothing other than being able
to say that they support a minority of a minority of that userbase,
*B.* that said solution would *still* cause UX discontinuity between
their application and everything else in the user's GUI environment,
and *C.* your only other proposal is that they *entirely redesign*
their layout/workflow (and cheese off their users) in exchange for
precisely nothing other than being able to say that they support a
minority of a minority of their userbase.

Enlighten me: what's the value proposition, there...?

> What else am I supposed to do? Tell you to go fuck yourself, maybe?

Well, for one, you could probably stand to take a nap.