Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 15:13:45 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 15 Message-ID: <20260508151345.0000586e@gmail.com> References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <69f472c8$0$10325$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <10t8gmr$37epi$4@dont-email.me> <18ac73d880b9a55f$7676$2865982$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10ticho$263lq$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 08 May 2026 22:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3369117"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18FGln+GyrQGfHUiuFXXl2i7WccorneS+A="; posting-host="dac1594219514ab9895981d5a08de31e" Cancel-Lock: sha1:/Zzteuj8lbKMKkI6tsJCzxjAwKQ= sha256:T6cuEo6ozT6C3D2MzXypoRZnfHKKgdOH+fOvQG5x4Z8= sha1:psoMAKgyJl+Wx1eWyWFwrgLoRXw= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86257 On Fri, 8 May 2026 13:04:06 -0000 (UTC) Borax Man wrote: > I kind of agree. I actually didn't like it much when I first started > using it, seemed... inefficient, some unecessary overhead. > > However, you work its peculuarities into your workflow. I think the > issue for me is not so much whether X11 is specifically around, but > how disruptive the replacement is. Yeah, that's the thing; XWindows was *always* a janky, inelegant system and is certainly ripe for replacement - but it's irksome to have the leading candidate run by developers with a fairly blinkered view of GUI design and an overall autocratic attitude towards user needs/feedback.