Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 15:20:20 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 20 Message-ID: <20260504152020.000053cd@gmail.com> References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <10t001q$pcmf$5@dont-email.me> <20260430095306.0000330b@gmail.com> <10t01vb$2p94u$1@dont-email.me> <20260430101559.00000fe5@gmail.com> <10t0kv8$10lf6$8@dont-email.me> <20260501135638.000014d3@gmail.com> <10t3a7f$1og72$5@dont-email.me> <20260501155425.00007474@gmail.com> <10t3bmo$1og72$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="4105918"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BAWYXRgfOTR/D6uNDmt4DvPB9S4K9brs="; posting-host="76dbb82330bc37174905376d955f9084" Cancel-Lock: sha1:WPbone/BPwRQqyeanHBO+zXKeyc= sha256:Ijr78nxQT19m0eu7g22dafG2ejO72ao9EtnfXEXYMbA= sha1:xVtPc6BYIAfwUDJHa9YcZti/nIs= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86130 On Fri, 1 May 2026 23:07:04 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro wrote: > Even I can think of a way the KiCad folks could have solved their > problem without requiring special treatment from Wayland. Oh right, you've *also* proposed that they implement an entire window- manager system within the confines of a single *actual* window, as in Blender, and this may be what you're referring to here. Which, again, would require that they spend a massive amount of development effort to suit the demands of a minority of a minority of their userbase, while making the user experience different for everyone else for no reason. Perhaps, instead of trying to construct arguments around the premise that KiCad (or any other *nix-friendly prosumer software using the multiple-windows-in-a-predefined-layout paradigm) is being unreasonable and requiring "special treatment" from Wayland, you might consider it from this perspective: by what logic is *Wayland* entitled to demand special treatment from KiCad?