Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 15:54:25 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 22 Message-ID: <20260501155425.00007474@gmail.com> References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <10t001q$pcmf$5@dont-email.me> <20260430095306.0000330b@gmail.com> <10t01vb$2p94u$1@dont-email.me> <20260430101559.00000fe5@gmail.com> <10t0kv8$10lf6$8@dont-email.me> <20260501135638.000014d3@gmail.com> <10t3a7f$1og72$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 01 May 2026 22:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="1819480"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dg4dmNmgmRIKHUOypYyrAEJXqCcD+lGU="; posting-host="6c4d6baeee3f2ced9e6d6123756b333c" Cancel-Lock: sha1:vH/3DTkPtZgbGWsgYeF5eQtabxQ= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86072 On Fri, 1 May 2026 22:41:52 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro wrote: > > Except that, when they finally get it through their heads that > > people won't use their stuff without this or that concession, they > > knuckle under (as they did with application-specified window size > > and position,) ... =20 >=20 > Where has there been such a concession? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/2= 64 ^ Right here, where after years of insisting that You Don't Need That & It Can't Be Done, only to run up against the fact that *nix-friendly prosumer developers like KiCad flatly refuse to re-work their entire UX and workflow to suit the whims of the Wayland devs, the Wayland devs... gave in and started working on a protocol extension to add support for application-specified window size & position. You know, as they could've done *at any point prior.*