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On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 21:05:46 -0700
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Kipling was good when I was a kid and did not understand the basics
> about colonialism, imperialism and racism.

Kipling's an interesting one; while I haven't made an in-depth study of
the man himself (and I certainly know some Indian folks who see him as
a cheerleader for the Empire,) there's a strong egalitarian streak in
his poetry, and a few moments in his writing that seem to hint at his
being maybe a little more skeptical of imperialism than a lot of his
peers ("Mark of the Beast" in particular gets *real* close to being an
"are we the baddies...?" moment, which is fairly shocking for 1890.)

The answer may be, as is often the case, that People Are Complicated...