Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: GNU Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 12:14:29 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 64 Message-ID: <20260319121429.00001ddf@gmail.com> References: <10oj4iv$256in$7@dont-email.me> <10ojmjv$2ashr$1@dont-email.me> <10okvro$2qvnj$1@dont-email.me> <10p7bp4$1g2jr$1@dont-email.me> <10p8ukd$1vi0v$9@dont-email.me> <10p9ti1$2c71i$1@dont-email.me> <10pantb$2kk45$1@dont-email.me> <10pc94h$36i8h$1@dont-email.me> <20260317123742.0000521e@gmail.com> <10pcu8n$3edfg$1@dont-email.me> <10pdspd$3mv8s$7@dont-email.me> <20260318122434.d7774816b147fba94b0b850c@127.0.0.1> <10pe83m$3rg2l$1@dont-email.me> <10peq1l$2ghs$2@dont-email.me> <10pfaa1$8kkt$1@dont-email.me> <10pgp4s$mdso$1@dont-email.me> <20260319092124.00001662@gmail.com> <10phfr9$uq1s$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 19:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a3989cdae952ffcf50a026d331c4aa5e"; logging-data="996444"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18wYHig6UdkeLwjjXjIoxdr//8ulk6ejg0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:vH9eeCx4653yGJmGbQSU339mvTA= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:83494 alt.usage.english:1140138 On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 18:38:33 +0000 The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > If you're worried about being overrun by "anti-Christian" people, it > > may be worth reviewing what the man himself said: > > > > "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely > > say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be > > glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way > > they persecuted the prophets who werebefore you." (Matt. 5:11-12) > > Fucvk that for a load of old bollocks. > I bet he didnt say that. > I bet the Romans who wrote him up 500 years after the fact said that. I mean, if you don't believe the Bible in present form is authentic, that's all well and good, but in that case, the entire foundation of Christianity is undermined - so why the appeal to its authority/value? If your ultimate yardstick is what sounds right to *you,* why not just own that? > I wish the Muslims would agree with that. If you place any value in Christian teaching yourself, it shouldn't matter one way or another whether some other group does. That's their problem, not yours. "Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bearthat name." (1 Peter 4:12-16) "Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance." (James 1:2-3) "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse." (Romans 12:14) "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." (Matt. 5:10) > We are *christian* because that is the morality you need, enforced by > law where necessary, to have sufficient trust in public bodies and > institutions to make them work. So you think we need a moral code based on a collection of writings you don't think are authentic laying out teachings you don't agree with, by the authority of someone you don't think said those things? What is the use of building a society on a foundation of nonsense? > Well I guess that's why we spent 400 years in crusades against Islam No, we did that because the Pope needed a way to get generations of squabbling nobles out of his hair and sending them to the Levant to call take-backsies on a conquest that was already 400 years gone was a pretty convenient way to do it. Shame they didn't stop to ask whether that lined up with Christ's own teachings first; woulda saved Conrad's boys a lot of trouble fifty years later!