Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: naughty Python Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 15:40:07 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <20251229154007.00000f61@gmail.com> References: <10i8usb$2oo2c$3@dont-email.me> <10icd30$2ck7$1@gal.iecc.com> <10idu04$7inn$1@dont-email.me> <10if4lo$jr1h$1@dont-email.me> <6decndo7ib2Df8z0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <10iu02q$1029n$12@dont-email.me> <10iu3g7$11u10$3@dont-email.me> <10iutjt$1c0aq$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 23:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c7f27a1e30c931379018ee5a8d799cd6"; logging-data="1500154"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mVyFXbfZ5TmN4+rehdXK4NBJI1lyQNaI=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:WQOyj2bzRIQqs8M7zpOd7tG1/pY= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:80084 alt.folklore.computers:232879 On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 21:59:25 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro wrote: > > Unfortunately, it's a secret society, like the Freemasons. Currently > > the MBAs run the companies, so they hire people who belong to the > > same club. It's not about competence. =20 >=20 > That won=E2=80=99t work, though. Incompetent companies will get out-compe= ted > by competent ones in the marketplace. That's certainly how it's supposed to work* - unfortunately, cronyist grifters with an MBA have gotten very, very practiced at a specific blend of willful ignorance, denialism, and cultured shunning of the competent which has enabled their whole class of cretins to *flourish* in the last thirty years (if not longer.) * (And sometimes it does; Nik Suresh of https://ludic.mataroa.blog/=20 started a consultancy with the specific goal of being the ethical, competent alternative in his neighborhood, and by his report it's going pretty well. But he's taking a bite out of it in his specific major metro area, while the problem, unfortunately, is global-scale.) Essentially, we've allowed the creation of a business culture where the people at the top are almost totally insulated from the consequences of their decisions (unless they go overboard into breaking the law in a major way; and even that rarely counts 'til they stiff the tax-man.) The C-suite gets to just do whatever as long as they keep the share- holders happy in the moment (never mind if it screws the whole company in the long terms) and make important-sounding noises, and when things fall apart they go on their merry way and leave everyone else to suffer in the fallout. You can see this again and again in corporate Big Tech; look at, for example, Carly Fiorina, who pulled a "turnaround" with Lucent back in the late '90s - early '00s which was to a significant extent based in shady financial games and ultimately gutted the company; 130,000 people lost their jobs as a result, and Fiorina...went on to run the show at HP and was all geared up to put *them* in the toilet as well before being forced out, but ultimately got her comeuppance by...um, losing her bid for the GOP nomination in 2016 and having to fall back on being incredibly wealthy and getting public-speaking engagements. The bill always comes due eventually - but a certain class of people have gotten *real* good at making sure someone else is left holding the bag when it does.