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On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 23:45:56 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> > Separation of form from content does *not* mean that web designers
> > are obligated to use overwrought, kludgy, or abusive design patterns
> > that the user then has to direct their browser to ignore. That's an
> > absurd thing to say. =20
>=20
> =E2=80=9CBeauty lies in the eye of the beholder=E2=80=9D would seem to be=
 the most
> polite response.

You can argue that it's a matter of taste if you like. For myself, I am
entirely comfortable saying that overwrought, kludgy, and (especially)
abusive patterns are *objectively bad web design,* in the same way that
the people in charge of Grenfell Tower were engaging in objectively bad
architectural renovations (thankfully, fewer people die as a result of
bad web design, most years,) and that web designers who employ them are
bad and should stop.