Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: KDE Goes Wayland Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 08:15:11 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <20251209081511.000019bd@gmail.com> References: <10h4hto$3llc7$1@dont-email.me> <10h8rud$nshd$3@dont-email.me> <187f885915bec455$43780$4031116$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10h9b2f$s0tc$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2025 16:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="43bb84c8ed084208bd3883670527920e"; logging-data="942934"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Csyc/UF3QbDa4iKbZ0IBtjYoUq2+TFyg=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:o5PZfM9NFm26thu+v/5bW/CtbCs= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:702453 comp.os.linux.misc:78576 On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 14:17:51 +0000 The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > Furthermore, Wayland is not a project done by amateurs in their > > spare time. Wayland is supported by IBM/RedHat big bucks. > > > > Wake me up when I couldn't distinguish X11 from Wayland by any > > practical measure. > > > If there were no detectable differences there wouldn't be any point > in having Wayland at all would there? > > Seriously your logic needs a semester or two in philosophy to sort > out. If a project is as open and direct about aiming to supplant and replace another project as Wayland has been, expecting it to offer feature parity with the thing it's replacing (and a relatively seamless switch in terms of user experience) is entirely reasonable. If this were Just Another FOSS Project, nobody would care that much about missing features or wonky design choices - rather, them as did care would ignore it, and the True Believers could continue on their merry way. But Wayland specifically wants to be the Only Game In Town, and Red Hat has been throwing its considerable weight behind that. *That's* what gets people hacked off, here, and with good reason. It's a rare day when FF of all people is the reasonable party in an exchanged. Wonder if I should buy a lottery ticket.