Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 09:06:28 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <20251124090628.00004efe@gmail.com> References: <1864d8e7ae136b94$115$2498948$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10a4ph3$obcm$2@dont-email.me> <68c5ef9f@news.ausics.net> <10a5sou$1360o$7@dont-email.me> <10fcb5j$3enl$1@dont-email.me> <20251120145948.00000987@gmail.com> <10fo9nn$3a6ib$3@dont-email.me> <20251121143333.00001168@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 17:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e1d3bc2610a74b5c0ee9fa63bde11515"; logging-data="2688683"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+T21rTOgyA+Wj+U7JdXRsrow4YWIr8m9g=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:0njBuNSo+YxirFuCTWcjuigIewg= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:701684 comp.os.linux.misc:77873 On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 00:16:21 GMT Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > PowerShell, on paper, offers a whole huge chunk of functionality > > that cmd.exe never did, with hooks for practically everything > > available to scripts directly. The problem is that actually finding > > out what those hooks *are* (and which esoteric namespace you have > > to import to use them) inevitably involves slogging through an > > endless morass of SpiceWorks threads and/or digging up the > > fossilized remains of long- extinct MSDN pages on archive.org :/ > > Sounds like more work than it's worth. By and large, yes. The only time it's worth the trouble is when you really need to automate sysadmin tasks and there's no standard command- line EXE tool for the job. Which, unfortunately, is more often than it ought to be, especially with MS deprecating WMIC in Win11 :/ (It is a shame, though; with as much functionality as it exposes and how smooth it makes interoperation of various Windows components, it really *could* be tremendously useful. But it's such a pain in the ass to figure out that I practically never bother.) > Years ago I found a collection of Unix-style tools (ls, grep, cut, > uniq, etc.) that run from a Windows command prompt; cmd.exe's pipes > (while primitive) are enough to string them together to do what I > want. Yeah, there were a few solutions for this over the years. Even spawned some more expansive utilities like GrepWin, which was part of a few different workflows at $OLDEMPLOYER many moons ago.