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On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 04:36:09 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> HyperCard was doing that about four years earlier.
>=20
> And don=E2=80=99t forget great-granddaddy Smalltalk, which goes right bac=
k to
> the 1970s, and was more advanced than either of them.

Very true, although HyperCard stopped just shy of allowing full first-
class application development IIRC (not by enough to keep people from
shipping stuff built with it, though.) But it definitely filled the
same niche in the Mac world, allowing novice developers with an idea to
go from zero to working model in a quick, straightforward manner.

Smalltalk was so far ahead of its time it wasn't even funny; sadly, the
difficulty of separating *applications* out from the system as a whole
made it difficult if not impossible to *ship* software 'til years down
the line, by which point its early lead had been mostly lost. A damn
shame - even now its fundamental design is beautiful.