Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage Subject: Re: Floppies Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 13:34:11 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <20250916133411.00001c32@gmail.com> References: <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6jefmlxb6j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10884l7$173em$1@dont-email.me> <1089ge2$1fvl9$8@dont-email.me> <10a68ql$16tjt$1@dont-email.me> <68c6bbc5$0$402$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <10a6rp4$1d082$5@dont-email.me> <2d9jplxvcn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10a6t8d$1d082$8@dont-email.me> <4cnjplxbgm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <101fck52laaigefq5tubi6i7b0qpccmuic@4ax.com> <9DOdncYo-vBzE1r1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <10a8mbc$1q6g1$8@dont-email.me> <10aca8j$2odbt$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 20:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3e6b284829560435fcae30bdceae1832"; logging-data="2874194"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+KOECeOfRL3VqFGLhCQoTTrh4A9kSSHp8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:uxXA3XE1BZjlk/8LC0yRVN/8iyk= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:74350 alt.usage.english:1128253 On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 20:28:35 +0200 Bertel Lund Hansen wrote: > > On the PC the format was handled in software (BIOS or even > > userland), =20 >=20 > The 3=BD" floppies could hold 720 kByte when used on a PC. If you set > up config.sys correctly, it could handle 144 kByte. >=20 > I haven't tried other formats on a PC, but I would be surprised if it=20 > could handle other formats - without formatting. The standard PC boot sector contains disk geometry info which can *theoretically* represent a wide range of disk formats; I'm not sure how far that can practically be pushed. The MS-DOS FORMAT utility supported a lot more options for disk sizes, but I don't know if it could read any arbitrary geometry as specified in the boot sector. The controller itself imposed some limitations as well (at least some of the parameters were shared across both drives on the ribbon, which made for interesting times if one was trying to access a non-standard format while running off a floppy in a standard format!) And only FM/ MFM encoding was supported, which meant that GCR-format disks (Apple II, 400/800KB Mac, most Commodore) couldn't be accessed in any case.