Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 08:03:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <20250905080339.00000213@gmail.com> References: <108tr31$2ctc1$1@dont-email.me> <1093vn9$3qi49$1@dont-email.me> <10941d2$25kq6$1@paganini.bofh.team> <109bqdg$1n2t1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 15:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9a41c9fb031e630c06ccb51dc91006cb"; logging-data="2544203"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX184CcHzJ933F4Ng/KWtSYUehkPw5mLpbJI=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:eByMsZzJrN83RS6tna565LXIMDU= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:73470 alt.folklore.computers:231766 On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 05:08:43 -0400 c186282 wrote: > To put it kindly ......... > > -IX has become better at dealing with soft-shutdown than Win. Win10 started playing all kinds of games with true shutdown vs. some kind of "deep suspend" - I'm pretty sure they were trying to improve "boot time" without actually having to *improve boot time,* but it was immensely counterproductive since NT has always leaked memory like a sieve and a full reboot is the only way to clear it up. I think they walked back some of the shenanigans in later updates, but on early revisions of 10 it was practically impossible to get it to perform a clean shutdown without holding in the power button 'til the machine itself cut out, though invoking shutdown from the command line sometimes seemed to work.